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Manifesto of a crying noob

Post by nambr9 »

Hello,

First of all, let me say a big thanks to the 4PLAYED TEAM for running this servers for us.
Seeing an active CS community in 2025 is amazing, and you guys are the ones making it happen. :fleh:

I've been playing this game since the start (with breaks of course), but CSS is where I stopped.
The hook still holds and I've been having a lot of fun on your servers this past year which is shown in the community STATS (big props).

I picked "D2 DM NoSniper" to be the go-to server.
The main reason is that the server is ALIVE and people actually talk in chat and many also use microphone. That is a huge + to the "fun factor" for me.
With this people the games are fun and it leads to smart plays, pushes, counter attacks, NADE blasts and most fun of all - knife fights.

Now, the second reason (chronologically it was the first), why I picked this server is the name itself.
DM2,DM(Deathmatch) (fast paced game with little camping as possible), NoSniper (additional camping reduction, that synergies with DM).
I'm a simple player, mostly rusher. Not the best one, but I know when to stop, to listen, to keep an eye on the radar and ambush (yes I consider that soft camping) when its needed. But I never hard camp.

Now some might think that I got bothered by certain people who ONLY SIT with PARA behind doors / corners / dark places. No.
Yes they are campers, yes they ANNOY people, yes they never speak or type in chat, yes they could be bots. But no.
Because you can play around them. You can even wait for them to reload for example, pray they aren't surrounded with 5 bots, run in - and knife them.

Who I'm having problem with (and yes, they sometimes even make me point them out in chat) is smart hard core - spawn - scope campers.
I don't have to point them out, you just look at the stats and their KPD is pretty noticeable.
This people join the game, sit in spawn and just camp. For the entire session. If the game would have a "move meter" the numbers would be funny to see.
They do this for the next hour or so, write "session" and go to bed satisfied. That's so Retro :roll:
Yes its a tactic. But on DM NoSniper? Should not be. At least they shouldn't be awarded and protected for it.
What's the point? Camp and be top? No Inspector, you are not this people, you just play too much - but your buddy is :D

So to cut this long post short, I don't expect the change. Change of banning them, or change in their behaviour.
I just want you guys to change "Camping is allowed" in-game message to "Camping is allowed (only because there is no tool to prevent it, but its not desired - and if you hard-camp all the time, you are being a little prick" or similar. :twisted:
Just to make it clear to them (because its clear to most of players, I am not the only one calling them out on regular basis). As for me, they bug me to the point where i get Grumpy and I don't want to play with them anymore. Hence the post.

So another win for them and -1 for the server for the time being. :winke:

Cheers.
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Re: Manifesto of a crying noob

Post by TBC|Snake »

Hello Nambr9,

first of all i'd like to say THANK YOU for the amazing and super polite post, you wrote.

I totally agree in so many ways. 4Played has a good community, not even on the Dust2DM No Sniper server... Other servers also have a very healthy environement.

As far as i know 4Played administrators continuely try to talk to these players ... but they can't be anywhere at any time. Due to the terms and conditions - Number 5.1 of 4Played (SEE HERE) camping CAN be punished on a DM Server. I myself habe been an admin for a long time and it's very difficult to seperate a tactical camping behaviour and - let's say "hardcore camping" like staying on the t base all the time.

To clarify - in most cases it is the easiest way to directly try to talk to the mentioned player and ask for a change in playstyle - if he responds.

If a change of the Motd will have that effect - i am not sure.

Let's see how it goes.

We'll hit us (or knive) on the servers.
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Re: Manifesto of a crying noob

Post by cosmic »

Hello,
I have no pb.
I just want to say to Snake, you were a very good admin, you never disappointed me and you always punished those who deserved it when we called you.
Happy to see you :)
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Post by TBC|Snake »

cosmic wrote: Fri 11. Jul 2025, 17:50 Hello,
I have no pb.
I just want to say to Snake, you were a very good admin, you never disappointed me and you always punished those who deserved it when we called you.
Happy to see you :)
Haha thank you cosmic - i appreciate that. Starting today I am back again at the adminteam of 4Played - so you can count on me further on
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Re: Manifesto of a crying noob

Post by Onkel_rAiden »

I say it very clear ....... I LIKE CAMPING!
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