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Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Thu 20. Nov 2025, 19:15
by Nisan
Guten Abend, Admins,

ich soll euch im Namen von C. eine Nachricht ausrichten, weil er Probleme hat, sich bei 4played anzumelden (Marach weiß es)


Hallo zusammen,

ich wurde kürzlich auf eurem Server gebannt, weil mir vorgeworfen wurde, einen Wallhack zu verwenden und zu cheaten. Ich möchte hier klarstellen, dass diese Vorwürfe unbegründet sind. Ich habe niemals irgendwelche Cheats benutzt oder meinen Spielstil manipuliert.

Ich spiele schon seit längerer Zeit regelmäßig auf diesem Server und habe viele von meinen Mitstreitern gut kennengelernt. Einige von euch wissen genau, dass ich nichts Unrechtes tue. Ja, ich bin vielleicht oft recht gut – aber das kommt einfach durch Übung und Erfahrung. In jeder Runde gibt es mal einen Moment, in dem alles zusammenpasst. Das ist ganz normal.

Ich verstehe aber auch, dass solche Anschuldigungen nicht leicht zu ignorieren sind, aber ich bitte um eine objektive Überprüfung meines Falls. Es ist mir wichtig, dass dieser Bann noch einmal überprüft wird, weil er meiner Meinung nach auf einem Missverständnis basiert.

Ich stehe jederzeit für ein Gespräch oder eine Klärung zur Verfügung. Vielen Dank für eure Aufmerksamkeit und ich hoffe auf eine faire Entscheidung.

Viele Grüße,
c.

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Thu 20. Nov 2025, 19:39
by santa_cloudy
Hello,
Sorry to hijack this thread, i heard about c. being banned and it made me a bit sad and I wanted to try and "help" reinstate his status on the server, if possible.

I admit he is an annoyingly good player which is probably why some people might think that he is using cheats. But trust me, he is very kill-able.
I enjoy playing against c. since he makes the game more challenging and entertaining. It would be a sad day to join the 4played server and not play against skilled opponents who make you a better player.
I don't actually know the guy, so i hope it's an indication that my message is objective.
Please consider this feedback before you make your decision. I can understand if in the moment there was a misunderstanding for the decision. But as i've seen in this forum the admins are doing their best to be fair and objective which I appreciate.

Thank you

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Fri 21. Nov 2025, 10:14
by DarK^^
Hello,
I also just learned about the permanent ban of afrais of c.

I agree with santa cloudy, he doesn't cheat; he's a very good player. Besides, when players like him are on the server, it adds to the game's appeal.
I hope an admin will hear what I have to say.

Have a good day.

Dark

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Fri 21. Nov 2025, 13:37
by NiliLynx
Hi,

Could you post whatever source material used to deem him a cheater, please?
I give both you and c. the benefit of doubt; he is a very good player and I have never even remotely suspected him before.

Best regards,
Nili

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Fri 21. Nov 2025, 15:58
by Honey-Mom
Demo attached.

He will stay banned cause he was using a wallhack. No discussion needed. I 'm 101% sure that he was a cheating dude.
Whatever you pray about him.... I know its your buddy and "its impossible" that someone like him is hacking.

but you 're wrong. Check out my demo-file.

Watch this demo with r_drawothermodels 2
After you 'll trust me ;-)

Best regards
H M-

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Sat 22. Nov 2025, 00:29
by santa_cloudy
Thanks for sharing the demo Honey-Mom, I just watched it a few times. And I'm sorry but i respectfully disagree with you, and i will share specific moments from the demo to explain why i think so.

1. At the beginning of the demo, when c. is over ct spawn, he eventually gets killed by someone who surprised him from the left. Someone with wh would've seen that.
2 When entering the tunnel, while c. thinks there might be someone on the right towards the stairs, he gets killed by someone who unexpectedly sits somewhere close to those bricks. If he was using wh he 100% would've seen that guy
3. When going towards ct spawn from the middle, he throws a couple of grenades in the tunnels but there is noone there and doesn't kill anyone. If he was using wh he would not have wasted grenades thrown with no enemies there
4. There's quite a few moments where both c. and the opponent shoot and hide. And while c. expects the opponent to show up from one spot (where he aims) the opponent shows up either from the right or the left so c. has to change his aim to the new position. Someone with wh would have known exactly where the opponent will show up and kaboom.
There's many such examples in the demo.

Could you please watch the demo again keeping the above bullets in mind? I think it can be confusing when either
1. the player looks at the minimap and moves at the same time, it seems like he might be looking through walls, but he is not looking at all, it's just movement while checking for enemies on the minimap
2. the player has experience, and knows pretty much where the opponent might go cause they've seen it a million times before. e.g. i can shoot through the doors and maybe even get a HS kill cause i know what the players that camp there will do, they've done it a million times and i've been on the other side of the door a million times as well. Half of those times i died but you learn the patterns and then it looks like you know exactly where the player is, but it's just the patterns and experience
3. some players might have a weird playing style, i've seen some in the server and i honestly thought they might be cheating, but after spectating them for a while i realized they just play weird :)

I know c. is our playing buddy like you said, and I get that might make you skeptical, but I also know you're just trying to keep the server fair - which I respect. I honestly think this might be a misread, and I'm just asking if you'd be willing to give it one more look with these points in mind. I trust your judgment either way, just want to make sure we're not banning a legit player over a misunderstanding. Thanks for hearing me out.

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Sat 22. Nov 2025, 11:57
by Honey-Mom
I ve unbanned him after reviewing some more demos. Maybe i judged after a few scences and banned him wrongly.
Sorry for the trouble.

Have fun

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Sat 22. Nov 2025, 12:22
by Nisan
Danke dir, Honey-Mom. Man weiß jetzt, dass 4played in guten Händen ist.
C. würde sich sehr freuen.
Der weiß es immer noch nicht 🤣

Re: Gebannd wegen Wh

Posted: Sat 22. Nov 2025, 15:42
by Nisan
Eine Nachricht von C.

Hallo Honey-Mum,

ich wollte mich herzlich bei dir bedanken, dass du meinen Bann aufgehoben hast. Es bedeutet mir viel, dass du die Entscheidung getroffen hast und mir eine zweite Chance gibst. Ich habe großen Respekt davor, dass du den Fehler eingesehen und korrigiert hast – das zeigt echt Charakter.

Ich hoffe, wir können in Zukunft weiterhin respektvoll miteinander umgehen. Vielen Dank nochmal für deine Fairness und das Verständnis.

Mit besten Grüßen,
C.